Ugh, since Murphy is continuing to stroke his ego and doesn't realize I was kidding, and since Wesim is a little sniper who struggles to make up for the fact that he is inferior to his sister in every way by moronic 'go alongs' whenever anyone else says anything clever, I'll clear it up.

I was kidding. I wasn't accusing you of powegaming, take a frick'n chill pill. Second, I do know about the Demon Lords, and my description of Luciphage's teachings are spot on. It may not be all-encompasing, but its accurate in its parts. Also, Murphy, the bit you quoted was written by a player, so its not canon. The one in AB REVILED is the admins idea of Luciphage, which is what I was reffering to. So no, I don't lose.

Second, Wesim, don't try to jab at me if you don't know jack on the subject.



So you. Have a nice day.

Makes sense, since it's not something physical you're trying to get out of.

Enfeeble still needs a cure.

Timeslip still needs to be addressed. For timeslip I suggest it have a defense cooldown identical to Athletic's vitality. This will fix the skill rather simply.

I also agree with Ferlas's assessment. Perfect gem transfixions are too good. Any illusionist can effect any group with it, via an illusion to drop sixthsense, then transfix. You can also transfix constantly, having each and every one of your enemies hindered for a long period of time. Unless the plan is to make the other trans tradeskill items as powerful in combat/hindering as the perfect gem, which I highly doubt, it needs to be examined/removed/nerfed.


Edit: Ferlas, not Guido.

If they fall for the illusion then it's the whole groups fault for not having a better system.

You can work around the transfix gem problem, so yeh i don't think it's a problem at all. This change to curing makes the gem better i agree there. I wouldn't mind having the gem targetable so it's like dazzle, and make it strip someone's 6thsense when pointed at them

Reyn's 'GHELP LUCIPHAGE' isn't wrong, exactly, but it neglects to cover all but one of Luciphage's aspects. So, I wouldn't go off of it if I were you, it's a pretty bad point of reference.

To be fair, though, my ghelp on Gorgulu is also wildly inaccurate. Could never be damned to write a new one. *inno*

*shrug* I got my info off of talking in person to the various cult Elders when I made my first pact.

This change makes the gem a lot better, as Ixion can attest to it from the battle on Limbo. It is not that hard to strip sixthsense either. It can be done via forcing the application of health to the head or skin, by attacking the person with Niricol or Ibululu, and by some demesne attacks (there are others, but most can figure them out).

An adjustment to the perfect gem's power or its complete removal would solve a major balance problem (The Paladin transfix costs 2 power and can only target one person), but I also think a solution similar to what to what Tuek has put forward could work too. I just know that the way the situation is right now is a bit out of whack.

Let's not forget Crow Murder can also blind all enemies at once (albeit not 100% of the time). It's bad enough that Dazzle has the exact same message as Judge in Sacrament but with this change a Paladin would be just completely insane.

I think Geb should get a gem, transfix, web, transfix, web until the retriever clamps an arm, then Behead!

That will learn them!

Nuh uh, you can still use Tipheret/Summer while Transfixed.

I am trying to remember, but don't you have to have equilibrium first to be able to writhe out of transfixation?

You could start writhing out of Transfix, then use Tipheret/Summer if someone webs you while you're still transfixed, that way you won't have to writhe from web after you got out of Transfix.

I mean the other way around though. If you are webbed first, use tipheret initially, and then transfixed, would you have to wait till you regained equilibrium before you can writhe out of your transfixed state?

The only bindings that require balance or equilibrium to writhe out of are pinleg, or pingut. You can writhe out of transfix off equilibrium. If you couldn't, a truelock would be so much easier to pull off.

Yes, from our tests, what sixthsense actually does is let you ignore the blindness and deafness afflictions. It doesn't stop abilities - blind and deaf stop the abilities. Sixthsense just lets you ignore those two afflictions entirely.

You need balance to writhe off crucifixion.

You don't need equilibrium to writhe off pinleg/pingut and crucify, just balance.

I wonder why I got it in my mind that you could not writhe out of tranfixation unless you had equilibrium? I know I must have carried the thought over from some other realm, because I’ve had that idea imbedded in my mind for 2 years. Oh well, I'm going have to find someone who can transfix me, and test just to make sure.

So, how heavily does INT modify the Fury-esque skills nowadays? I hadn't used them in aaages and I think its gone through a couple tweaks since then.