Tzekelkan2008-01-22 00:32:36
CODE
Id      Vial                          Potion                  Sips  Months
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168314  an emerald vial                a mending salve            43      130
168880  an emerald vial                a regeneration salve      50      130
50671    a pearl vial                  empty                      0      143
169851  an opal vial                  a potion of bromides      32      130
169760  an opal vial                  empty                      0      130
169649  an opal vial                  empty                      0      130
169904  an opal vial                  a potion of mana          21      130
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168314  an emerald vial                a mending salve            43      130
168880  an emerald vial                a regeneration salve      50      130
50671    a pearl vial                  empty                      0      143
169851  an opal vial                  a potion of bromides      32      130
169760  an opal vial                  empty                      0      130
169649  an opal vial                  empty                      0      130
169904  an opal vial                  a potion of mana          21      130
No way! Potionlist got changed to show you empty vials as well!




Thank you!
Acrune2008-01-22 00:33:16
QUOTE(Forren @ Jan 21 2008, 07:01 PM) 479215
Uh wha? Afterimage is everything wrong with glamours.
The only thing wrong with glamours is everyone is too lazy to cure it right.
Acrune2008-01-22 00:33:42
QUOTE(tzekelkan @ Jan 21 2008, 07:32 PM) 479224
CODE
Id      Vial                          Potion                  Sips  Months
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168314  an emerald vial                a mending salve            43      130
168880  an emerald vial                a regeneration salve      50      130
50671    a pearl vial                  empty                      0      143
169851  an opal vial                  a potion of bromides      32      130
169760  an opal vial                  empty                      0      130
169649  an opal vial                  empty                      0      130
169904  an opal vial                  a potion of mana          21      130
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168314  an emerald vial                a mending salve            43      130
168880  an emerald vial                a regeneration salve      50      130
50671    a pearl vial                  empty                      0      143
169851  an opal vial                  a potion of bromides      32      130
169760  an opal vial                  empty                      0      130
169649  an opal vial                  empty                      0      130
169904  an opal vial                  a potion of mana          21      130
No way! Potionlist got changed to show you empty vials as well!




Thank you!
It didn't always?
Tzekelkan2008-01-22 00:37:52
QUOTE(Acrune @ Jan 22 2008, 01:33 AM) 479226
It didn't always?
I kind of remember it annoying me a couple of days ago that it didn't. If it did, I don't care, I just found out and I'm happy!

EDIT: On the other hand,
CODE
wp robes
Physical cutting:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 39
Physical blunt:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 51
It is in perfect condition.
Flowing robes of pure white has no poisons or magical effects on it.
Physical cutting:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 39
Physical blunt:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 51
It is in perfect condition.
Flowing robes of pure white has no poisons or magical effects on it.

Xenthos2008-01-22 00:43:30
QUOTE(tzekelkan @ Jan 21 2008, 07:37 PM) 479227
I kind of remember it annoying me a couple of days ago that it didn't. If it did, I don't care, I just found out and I'm happy! 
EDIT: On the other hand,


EDIT: On the other hand,
CODE
wp robes
Physical cutting:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 39
Physical blunt:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 51
It is in perfect condition.
Flowing robes of pure white has no poisons or magical effects on it.
Physical cutting:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 39
Physical blunt:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 51
It is in perfect condition.
Flowing robes of pure white has no poisons or magical effects on it.

Are you sure it wasn't gagged? My 2-year-old potionlist script counts empty vials based on the PL list.
Zacc2008-01-22 00:45:25
It used to show empty vials. I made a neat little alias so I could swap near decaying vials with empty ones.
And, on another note... I think I'm going to go monk just to prove how ridiculously overpowered that class is. If I can win a single arena event or stand up against someone 1-on-1, then it's clearly OP. We all know I can't fight well. Also, every class I've been in got hit with the nerf stick.. so maybe monks will finally get their thrashing.
And, on another note... I think I'm going to go monk just to prove how ridiculously overpowered that class is. If I can win a single arena event or stand up against someone 1-on-1, then it's clearly OP. We all know I can't fight well. Also, every class I've been in got hit with the nerf stick.. so maybe monks will finally get their thrashing.

Daganev2008-01-22 00:49:35
PL always showed empty vials. But it didn't and still doesn't show kegs 

Tzekelkan2008-01-22 00:51:55
I'm 90% sure it didn't show me the empty vials a few days ago... but then again, maybe I am blind.
Anyway, happy that it does, yessir!
Anyway, happy that it does, yessir!

Revan2008-01-22 01:21:04
QUOTE(Acrune @ Jan 21 2008, 05:33 PM) 479225
The only thing wrong with ruptures is everyone is too lazy to cure it right.
fixed
Unknown2008-01-22 01:24:42
QUOTE(Acrune @ Jan 21 2008, 07:33 PM) 479225
The only thing wrong with choke is everyone is too lazy to cure it right.
TruFix'd.
I absolutely love this tracking change (I'm such a genius!). Now Xenthos just needs to work his Envoy-Magic on my few other suggestions, and I'm all set!
Wheee.
Ashai2008-01-22 01:37:18
Those aren't all of the envoys for the month, are they? But... it's fine, no rush with the choke change. Really.
Nezha2008-01-22 01:44:25
I dont understand why this constant pounding agains bards..
The only real problem i have with them is that they have insane minorsecond damage. i.e. Acrune did slightly less than 3000 to me and the others does in excess of over 2000.. Which for a base-2 attack is really hard to take.. (although, they might have some runes/music that amplifies it -but still, i dont think such fast, strong attacks should exists)
But other than that, as a telepath inside a demesne.. they are not the overpowering class that everyone makes them out to be..
I think with the stun times being decreased already.. and if the stun does not last as long as the next attack, it is fine.. see, blanknote takes equilibrium.. and it removes a defense that takes only herb balance.. its not like eating earwort is equivalent to evoke pentagram psi against telepaths where the opp have to also stop their offense.. or even the dissolve of demesne users.. which is a very fast attack, can be done with staff, cannot be avoided, and to put up a scroll of protection again, requires and takes balance..
The only thing slightly op going for them is actually the aforementioned minorsecond damage.. and taking it away would make the class a little weak comparatively*.. but it is such a strong attack that it has to be balanced somewhat imo
*although octave is really strong, setting it up is also quite problematic..
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Now, this constant pouding against monks, go ahead..
The only real problem i have with them is that they have insane minorsecond damage. i.e. Acrune did slightly less than 3000 to me and the others does in excess of over 2000.. Which for a base-2 attack is really hard to take.. (although, they might have some runes/music that amplifies it -but still, i dont think such fast, strong attacks should exists)
But other than that, as a telepath inside a demesne.. they are not the overpowering class that everyone makes them out to be..
QUOTE
I can't believe we forgot to envoy the stun on blanknote,
I think with the stun times being decreased already.. and if the stun does not last as long as the next attack, it is fine.. see, blanknote takes equilibrium.. and it removes a defense that takes only herb balance.. its not like eating earwort is equivalent to evoke pentagram psi against telepaths where the opp have to also stop their offense.. or even the dissolve of demesne users.. which is a very fast attack, can be done with staff, cannot be avoided, and to put up a scroll of protection again, requires and takes balance..
The only thing slightly op going for them is actually the aforementioned minorsecond damage.. and taking it away would make the class a little weak comparatively*.. but it is such a strong attack that it has to be balanced somewhat imo
*although octave is really strong, setting it up is also quite problematic..
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Now, this constant pouding against monks, go ahead..

Forren2008-01-22 02:20:59
Yeah, bards have been beaten to death. They're probably going to need some adjustment in other areas now that these nerfs have been applied.
Monks need attention.
Monks need attention.
Forren2008-01-22 02:23:32
QUOTE(Revan @ Jan 21 2008, 08:21 PM) 479244
fixed
Curing ruptures flawlessly, you're still behind within seconds. Perfect curing does not beat Ninjakari.
Revan2008-01-22 02:39:21
how do you know? Have you cured ninjakari flawlessly?
Malarious2008-01-22 02:46:51
You are curious about as you sa my 'Nihilist fixes'?
Well lets look at it...
Perfect Curing presumed..
Aeon with anorexia and stupidity
If stupidity tics 0 times you cure in 2 seconds:
tics once: 3 seconds
tics twice: 4 seconds
tics three times: 5 seconds..
as a note its 3.2 seconds for an aslaran to fling a tarot.. so you can fail once before they can even do anything. This is called imperfect strategy, when you can do everything right and still be wrong. It presumes you stick afflictions that will help with it and that your opponent doesnt catch it even before the main setup hits.
Now requiring eq or bal to cure it would greatly increase the power of aff stacking. However it has to be .5 as 1s delay would be far too strong. Shackles, epilepsy, scabies, darksilver, crunch, paralysis, impatience, dominate, rigormortis, theres a great sum of ability to stack sap as a Nihilist though we dont have it. It would need a new name but it could be set in place better. I do agree with Celina though, it could potentially OP.
The ideal thing for Nihilists is to replace aeon or revamp to work entirely without (including one solution where you cant give affs to stack for aeon intentionally).
Well lets look at it...
Perfect Curing presumed..
Aeon with anorexia and stupidity
If stupidity tics 0 times you cure in 2 seconds:
tics once: 3 seconds
tics twice: 4 seconds
tics three times: 5 seconds..
as a note its 3.2 seconds for an aslaran to fling a tarot.. so you can fail once before they can even do anything. This is called imperfect strategy, when you can do everything right and still be wrong. It presumes you stick afflictions that will help with it and that your opponent doesnt catch it even before the main setup hits.
Now requiring eq or bal to cure it would greatly increase the power of aff stacking. However it has to be .5 as 1s delay would be far too strong. Shackles, epilepsy, scabies, darksilver, crunch, paralysis, impatience, dominate, rigormortis, theres a great sum of ability to stack sap as a Nihilist though we dont have it. It would need a new name but it could be set in place better. I do agree with Celina though, it could potentially OP.
The ideal thing for Nihilists is to replace aeon or revamp to work entirely without (including one solution where you cant give affs to stack for aeon intentionally).
Unknown2008-01-22 02:59:19
Holy crap. Way to neuter glamours. GOOD WORK.
So instead of sticking maybe one or two afflictions if we are lucky, now we can spam afflictions to no avail! Woo!
And WHY did Blademasters get a nerf? Totally unnecessary. If any warrior class needs a nerf, it's BC and the knockdown spam.
And monks are still broken.
I'm starting to have my doubts about the envoy process.
So instead of sticking maybe one or two afflictions if we are lucky, now we can spam afflictions to no avail! Woo!
And WHY did Blademasters get a nerf? Totally unnecessary. If any warrior class needs a nerf, it's BC and the knockdown spam.
And monks are still broken.
I'm starting to have my doubts about the envoy process.
Shiri2008-01-22 03:03:28
Of course monks ruptures are still broken. This is the envoy process from LAST month. That stuff is more likely to be corrected in this month's report.
Unknown2008-01-22 03:12:12
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 21 2008, 09:03 PM) 479298
Of course monks ruptures are still broken. This is the envoy process from LAST month. That stuff is more likely to be corrected in this month's report.
Meh, I guess monks aren't 'broken'...just unbalanced. IMO. Seems like the classes that could handle them the best are getting the nerf stick. Admins must really like the idea of monks.
Can Thatesto still stack balance loss? I haven't fought one in a while, and I forget all the envoy posts.
Everiine2008-01-22 03:16:33
QUOTE(Duke of Ess @ Jan 21 2008, 05:51 PM) 479193
BLADEMASTER
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- New skill: GashChest
- Pinleg will no longer stop focusing and outrifting
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- New skill: GashChest
- Pinleg will no longer stop focusing and outrifting




QUOTE
TRACKING
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- Disarming a trap that is not yours will return roughly half the
commodities
GENERAL
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- All Tradeskills may now search for particular types of design items in
the following manner:
Old: FORGING MASTERWEAPONS (to see all masterweapons)
New: FORGING MASTERWEAPONS SWORD (to see all masterweapon swords)
New: FORGING BLADES RAPIER (to see all rapiers)
- You can now read help files while asleep
- The Discernment skill Search will reveal those in the rooftops
Enjoy!
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- Disarming a trap that is not yours will return roughly half the
commodities
GENERAL
-------
- All Tradeskills may now search for particular types of design items in
the following manner:
Old: FORGING MASTERWEAPONS (to see all masterweapons)
New: FORGING MASTERWEAPONS SWORD (to see all masterweapon swords)
New: FORGING BLADES RAPIER (to see all rapiers)
- You can now read help files while asleep
- The Discernment skill Search will reveal those in the rooftops
Enjoy!


