Diamondais2007-06-05 23:52:19
QUOTE(shadow @ Jun 5 2007, 09:24 AM) 415023
The upside of the whole matter is that druids will finally have a reason again to take runes as third skill. 

Not really, both Communes have enough Runists to keep up with the demand.
Runists, up to demanding the Communes pay supply all commodities and tints?

Saran2007-06-06 00:37:47
QUOTE(daganev @ Jun 6 2007, 01:48 AM) 415056
Umm, Master trees give power, as do saplings, as do totems, just not as much power.
Are you sure about that, I didn't notice anything in the logs though I might not have searched them correctly
Diamondais2007-06-06 00:39:33
QUOTE(Saran @ Jun 5 2007, 08:37 PM) 415131
Are you sure about that, I didn't notice anything in the logs though I might not have searched them correctly
They do Saran, all Saplings from Commune Nuts give a small amount of power. I'll find you the post detailing how much later on. It's small at first, and grows, but it does give power.
Unknown2007-06-06 18:19:25
EDIT: Okay they -did- add power. I just didn't search corrently (read turned all triggers off grah).
Also look at this:
The Altar is supposed to add power -once- per ig month. But as you can see there are times when it adds up to 4 times apparently, and then other months logs are entirely empty. So yes (and this mean Saran) the Seren powerlogs are still buggy as
. 
Also look at this:
CODE
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:29.625/-powerlog 0 0 living
No activity.
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:30.203/-powerlog 0 1 living
2007/06/05 23:15:14 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:32.500/-powerlog 0 2 living
2007/06/04 22:12:01 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/03 21:08:08 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/02 20:07:10 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/01 19:05:35 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:34.656/-powerlog 0 3 living
2007/06/03 21:08:08 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/02 20:07:10 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/01 19:05:35 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:36.500/-powerlog 0 4 living
(Serenwilde): Sarrasri says, "Jewelers."
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:38.875/-
No activity.
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:39.187/-powerlog 0 5 living
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:40.984/-powerlog 0 6 living
2007/05/31 18:03:56 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:42.843/-
No activity.
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:30.203/-powerlog 0 1 living
2007/06/05 23:15:14 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:32.500/-powerlog 0 2 living
2007/06/04 22:12:01 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/03 21:08:08 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/02 20:07:10 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/01 19:05:35 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:34.656/-powerlog 0 3 living
2007/06/03 21:08:08 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/02 20:07:10 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
2007/06/01 19:05:35 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:36.500/-powerlog 0 4 living
(Serenwilde): Sarrasri says, "Jewelers."
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:38.875/-
No activity.
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:39.187/-powerlog 0 5 living
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:40.984/-powerlog 0 6 living
2007/05/31 18:03:56 - 1200 power was added for the upkeep of the Living Altar of
Lunar Glory
6670h, 7705m, 7015e, 10p, 27900en, 32400w exk<>-/20:22:42.843/-
The Altar is supposed to add power -once- per ig month. But as you can see there are times when it adds up to 4 times apparently, and then other months logs are entirely empty. So yes (and this mean Saran) the Seren powerlogs are still buggy as


Kaervas2007-06-06 18:35:43
You only need to look at the dates to see that it's not giving power more than it should. 

Unknown2007-06-06 18:55:31
QUOTE(Kaervas @ Jun 6 2007, 08:35 PM) 415289
You only need to look at the dates to see that it's not giving power more than it should. 

I'm aware of that. My problem is that usually 'powerlog 0 0' shows the current day, 'powerlog 0 1' yesterday.. and so on.
If you look at my example though it's pretty clear that the powerlog doesn't get split as it should. It keeps appending to the same log for several days instead of making a new one each day. Hence, it's messy. And it also makes it harder to check for daily power allotments.
EDIT: It also seems to double certain parts of the log, if you look at the dates.
Does any other org have messy logs like that or is it -only- Seren? :/
Daganev2007-06-06 19:07:58
Try doing powerlog 1 0 instead of 0 1, it looks like its giving you the same month over and over starting on different lines.
Unknown2007-06-06 19:50:51
QUOTE(daganev @ Jun 6 2007, 09:07 PM) 415297
Try doing powerlog 1 0 instead of 0 1, it looks like its giving you the same month over and over starting on different lines.
I'm pretty sure the way I did it was correct. The first 0 should usually be the starting line, the second the starting month.
If I do it with the Seren logs it works fine, your way would just give me the same month over and over but starting at a different line.

The reason the powerlogs above seem repeated is because the same rl days -are- logged repeatedly. I just checked powerlog 0 2 and 0 3 again. The 3rd June is in both of them for example. There's just one word to describe it: Messy

Daganev2007-06-06 20:06:33
Try doing it reversed, or are you saying you are certain that your way is infact different months and not the same day over and over again?
It is entirely possible that when searching somehow the values get reversed in the function.
It is entirely possible that when searching somehow the values get reversed in the function.
Unknown2007-06-06 20:18:08
Daganev, HELP LOGS. Unless something's screwy, Aesyra's got it the right way 'round. Also, even if she was getting them back to front, the entries from three consecutive days still shouldn't be showing up in the same log page.
Daganev2007-06-06 20:20:46
QUOTE(Ytraelux @ Jun 6 2007, 01:18 PM) 415313
Daganev, HELP LOGS. Unless something's screwy, Aesyra's got it the right way 'round. Also, even if she was getting them back to front, the entries from three consecutive days still shouldn't be showing up in the same log page.
oi!
I'm not suggesting Aesyra got them backwards, I'm suggesting the code possibly, has it backwards. I.e., What you are supposed to do, and what works are two different things. The only way to know that is to try it, and not to assume that since you know how its supposed to work, that thats the way it does work.
Unknown2007-06-06 21:33:59
QUOTE(daganev @ Jun 6 2007, 10:20 PM) 415314
oi!
I'm not suggesting Aesyra got them backwards, I'm suggesting the code possibly, has it backwards. I.e., What you are supposed to do, and what works are two different things. The only way to know that is to try it, and not to assume that since you know how its supposed to work, that thats the way it does work.
I'm not suggesting Aesyra got them backwards, I'm suggesting the code possibly, has it backwards. I.e., What you are supposed to do, and what works are two different things. The only way to know that is to try it, and not to assume that since you know how its supposed to work, that thats the way it does work.
No the code is correct. Yes I am 100% sure. I just checked a -third- time... seriously Daganev, I know how to read logs. I -see- if I'm looking at the same day or not. The Seren powerlogs log the same thing repeatedly, it's really weird.
Fain2007-06-06 21:41:15
Okay, move along. This topic has been beaten to death. Submit a bug report.
Xenthos2007-06-06 21:46:19
QUOTE(shadow @ Jun 6 2007, 05:33 PM) 415334
No the code is correct. Yes I am 100% sure. I just checked a -third- time... seriously Daganev, I know how to read logs. I -see- if I'm looking at the same day or not. The Seren powerlogs log the same thing repeatedly, it's really weird.
Glomdoring's started doing it a couple weeks back, actually-- about half a month after Seren's started for the first time.
Edit: And I've been ninja'd. Hm.
Unknown2007-06-06 21:48:27
QUOTE(Fain @ Jun 6 2007, 11:41 PM) 415341
Okay, move along. This topic has been beaten to death. Submit a bug report.
I did. Several rl months ago. I eventually figured it got overlooked because it was only Serenwilde..
Besides I blame Daganev for the thread hijack

/hijack
Yevah2007-06-08 04:38:45
Syntax: STARCHANT FERVOR
Power: 3 (Pool of Stars)
By praying to the Light to guide your hand, you may be assured that your
words and deeds are the will of Holy Celestia itself. While possessed of
this fiery religious fervor, all damage you do will be increased, but
you will also take greater damage for your Passion of the Light.
Lasts too short for anyone who is not specializing in damage kills. (i.e. Imperial Merian Celestine with Dolphin sphere and war blessing.) It's about one or two symbol strikes for me. Anyone test it yet?
Power: 3 (Pool of Stars)
By praying to the Light to guide your hand, you may be assured that your
words and deeds are the will of Holy Celestia itself. While possessed of
this fiery religious fervor, all damage you do will be increased, but
you will also take greater damage for your Passion of the Light.
Lasts too short for anyone who is not specializing in damage kills. (i.e. Imperial Merian Celestine with Dolphin sphere and war blessing.) It's about one or two symbol strikes for me. Anyone test it yet?
Ildaudid2007-06-08 06:00:19
QUOTE(Yevah @ Jun 8 2007, 12:38 AM) 415737
Syntax: STARCHANT FERVOR
Power: 3 (Pool of Stars)
By praying to the Light to guide your hand, you may be assured that your
words and deeds are the will of Holy Celestia itself. While possessed of
this fiery religious fervor, all damage you do will be increased, but
you will also take greater damage for your Passion of the Light.
Lasts too short for anyone who is not specializing in damage kills. (i.e. Imperial Merian Celestine with Dolphin sphere and war blessing.) It's about one or two symbol strikes for me. Anyone test it yet?
Power: 3 (Pool of Stars)
By praying to the Light to guide your hand, you may be assured that your
words and deeds are the will of Holy Celestia itself. While possessed of
this fiery religious fervor, all damage you do will be increased, but
you will also take greater damage for your Passion of the Light.
Lasts too short for anyone who is not specializing in damage kills. (i.e. Imperial Merian Celestine with Dolphin sphere and war blessing.) It's about one or two symbol strikes for me. Anyone test it yet?
Double check it I was told it lasts 20-45 seconds... so if it is random, maybe you just got the low end of the time spectrum, and actually I think it is more in mind for warriors too. I see it being a nice addition. And since it is not supposed to be capable of stacking with numen, it should be balanced enough.
Unknown2007-06-08 08:58:11
QUOTE
Please note that there are still some Envoy changes we are reviewing and
have yet to make a decision on, so there may be a few follow-up changes
to this report. The following Envoy changes have been made:
CELESTIALISM/NIHILISM/WICCA
---------------------------
- The Open Channels defense will only be lost when the player logs out,
and not on death.
LOWMAGIC
--------
- The Orange Chakra has been reduced to 1 power, no longer resists
passing out from hunger, and halves the hunger the user gains while
active.
NECROSCREAM
-----------
- The song SickeningPlague strips Athletics Consciousness, in addition
to its current effects.
NIGHT
-----
- Gloomtide now only requires a coven size of 5 wiccans, and will no
longer remove the wiccans as allies of others.
PSIONICS
--------
- You can now shatter psi shields through regular shields.
RITUALS
-------
- Conjuctio no longer causes balance loss in the victim if they are
already following the caster.
SACRAMENTS
----------
- There is a new skill: Fervor.
SHADOWBEAT
----------
- The song ShadowPulse will now cause paralysis if the listener is
bleeding for more than 400 health at regular intervals.
STAG
----
- When TrueHeart blocks a pooka's forced command, the pooka's control
over the Stag totemist will be lost.
STARHYMN
--------
- Recessional's chance for blocking healing has been reduced to 1/3rd.
MISC.
-----
- Applying health to head will no longer cure blindness or deafness if
the person has the sixth sense and truehearing defenses, respectively.
Additionally, the following non-Envoy changes have been made:
- Demigod phoenix is on a timer similarly to, but much shorter than,
Conglutinate. This will prevent the bug with multiple deaths some
demigods would experience with high-damage mob attacks.
- In light of the bugfix with Totems, we have made it so that those with
the TotemCarving skill can PROBE any unbonded living totem to see how
many days remain until it reverts to an elder tree.
- Hex Sense will no longer cost power to use if you already have the
defense active.
Enjoy!
have yet to make a decision on, so there may be a few follow-up changes
to this report. The following Envoy changes have been made:
CELESTIALISM/NIHILISM/WICCA
---------------------------
- The Open Channels defense will only be lost when the player logs out,
and not on death.
LOWMAGIC
--------
- The Orange Chakra has been reduced to 1 power, no longer resists
passing out from hunger, and halves the hunger the user gains while
active.
NECROSCREAM
-----------
- The song SickeningPlague strips Athletics Consciousness, in addition
to its current effects.
NIGHT
-----
- Gloomtide now only requires a coven size of 5 wiccans, and will no
longer remove the wiccans as allies of others.
PSIONICS
--------
- You can now shatter psi shields through regular shields.
RITUALS
-------
- Conjuctio no longer causes balance loss in the victim if they are
already following the caster.
SACRAMENTS
----------
- There is a new skill: Fervor.
SHADOWBEAT
----------
- The song ShadowPulse will now cause paralysis if the listener is
bleeding for more than 400 health at regular intervals.
STAG
----
- When TrueHeart blocks a pooka's forced command, the pooka's control
over the Stag totemist will be lost.
STARHYMN
--------
- Recessional's chance for blocking healing has been reduced to 1/3rd.
MISC.
-----
- Applying health to head will no longer cure blindness or deafness if
the person has the sixth sense and truehearing defenses, respectively.
Additionally, the following non-Envoy changes have been made:
- Demigod phoenix is on a timer similarly to, but much shorter than,
Conglutinate. This will prevent the bug with multiple deaths some
demigods would experience with high-damage mob attacks.
- In light of the bugfix with Totems, we have made it so that those with
the TotemCarving skill can PROBE any unbonded living totem to see how
many days remain until it reverts to an elder tree.
- Hex Sense will no longer cost power to use if you already have the
defense active.
Enjoy!
Krellan2007-06-08 13:06:16
what's a gloom tide?
woot! bug reports actually get read! The hex sense one was one I reported a few days ago!
what's the damage percent increase supposed to be, out of curiosity?
@yevah at least you don't have to deal with 100% magic moonbursts
woot! bug reports actually get read! The hex sense one was one I reported a few days ago!
what's the damage percent increase supposed to be, out of curiosity?
@yevah at least you don't have to deal with 100% magic moonbursts

Unknown2007-06-09 12:28:18
- When TrueHeart blocks a pooka's forced command, the pooka's control
over the Stag totemist will be lost.
Good change, I always thought it was silly that you could just spam it, and they might resist 10 times in a row, but the 11th (about 1 second later) would go through.
@ Krellan: Gloom Tide "hides you from enemies and allies alike" I haven't a clue if that's cloaking gem hiding or nature blend hinding though, it really wasn't used all that often (at all?) with 9 Coven members needed. Think of how often Moonies used to use the old, old shine. "woot, erm, lets all like, stand in this one room, in the middle of battle, all 9 of us, and don't do anything to break the circle, and no one die, then we can use shine!" *rolleyes*
over the Stag totemist will be lost.
Good change, I always thought it was silly that you could just spam it, and they might resist 10 times in a row, but the 11th (about 1 second later) would go through.
@ Krellan: Gloom Tide "hides you from enemies and allies alike" I haven't a clue if that's cloaking gem hiding or nature blend hinding though, it really wasn't used all that often (at all?) with 9 Coven members needed. Think of how often Moonies used to use the old, old shine. "woot, erm, lets all like, stand in this one room, in the middle of battle, all 9 of us, and don't do anything to break the circle, and no one die, then we can use shine!" *rolleyes*