Krellan2007-05-18 02:26:50
i hope all the other perfect fifth things were fixed too, like if you gusted the bard out or feared them out you'd still be afflicted as attracted to them and you'd have to still leave to get rid of it otherwise they could walk back in and you'd be stuck with the affliction again.
Nico2007-05-18 02:29:57
QUOTE(Krellan @ May 17 2007, 10:26 PM) 409379
i hope all the other perfect fifth things were fixed too, like if you gusted the bard out or feared them out you'd still be afflicted as attracted to them and you'd have to still leave to get rid of it otherwise they could walk back in and you'd be stuck with the affliction again.
I think it's supposed to work like that, as it costs power to use the skill. Otherwise to waste power, just eat earwort, walk out, back in, resume attack.
Furien2007-05-18 02:31:57
Perfect fifth is...working?
I can actually pull of fan instakill now? (Shh, Shamarah!)
SQUEEEE
I can actually pull of fan instakill now? (Shh, Shamarah!)
SQUEEEE
Xavius2007-05-18 02:55:36
QUOTE(Shorlen @ May 7 2007, 02:42 AM) 405155
Oh, right, I knew there was something I was forgetting.
The suggestion was a good one, don't get me wrong
That has been a serious problem for a while, but since the other free mounts all stunk too, and keeping your mount with you when you change elevations is so difficult, I had left it as is. I just think druids should have some way of keeping their mounts with them.
Narsrim PMed me saying that BT crow mounts can climb trees - has anyone been able to get stags to climb trees? I sure never did, but I didn't try very hard.
The suggestion was a good one, don't get me wrong

Narsrim PMed me saying that BT crow mounts can climb trees - has anyone been able to get stags to climb trees? I sure never did, but I didn't try very hard.
Crows don't climb trees per se. You can SPUR CROW SKYWARD, wait, LAND TREES. Or you can DISMOUNT, ORDER CROW FOLLOW ME, CLIMB UP, VAULT CROW. The latter should be available to Hartstone.
Furien2007-05-18 03:04:44
It is already.
Not that the stag's ever useful in the trees.
Not that the stag's ever useful in the trees.
Anarias2007-05-18 04:38:18
What should be happening with both stags and crows is that you stay "mounted" on them in the trees while they stay on the ground level beneath you. You can move through rooms while in the tree elevation and when you climb down your mount will be there too as if you never left it.
Whether that's the way its supposed to work is an entirely different matter.
Whether that's the way its supposed to work is an entirely different matter.
Furien2007-05-18 04:41:13
Bugger, perfectfifth doesn't work.
Nirrti is undeaf, and attracted via perfectfifth.
Nirrti starts tumbling to the northeast.
Nirrti eats a sprig of earwort.
You blanknote Nirrti, and remove her deafness.
Nirrti tumbles out to the northeast.

Nirrti is undeaf, and attracted via perfectfifth.
Nirrti starts tumbling to the northeast.
Nirrti eats a sprig of earwort.
You blanknote Nirrti, and remove her deafness.
Nirrti tumbles out to the northeast.

Lysandus2007-05-18 04:54:30
when she eats earwort, it nullifies perfectfifth, you have to prefectfifth her again BEFORE she gets to tumble out.
Richter2007-05-18 04:55:42
QUOTE(daganev @ May 17 2007, 08:11 AM) 409006
I think I wan to apply to be a guide now
AWESOME CHANGE

A friend and I were really wanting this, and asking a bunch, and right as I put down the guide hat due to time constraints, they get something fun like this! Le sigh. The times we could have had, future novices...
Furien2007-05-18 05:01:19
Completely and totally nullifies it, as in, I'm going to have to re-perfectfifth each time earwort is eaten? 

Xavius2007-05-18 05:07:57
QUOTE(Furien @ May 18 2007, 12:01 AM) 409418
Completely and totally nullifies it, as in, I'm going to have to re-perfectfifth each time earwort is eaten? 

Oh noes, scary skill has a cure?

Unknown2007-05-18 05:21:15
That wasn't my understanding of the skill. My understanding was that you had to be deaf and walk out in order to break it. If you stayed in the room and were re-undeafened, you were still in perfect fifth. Otherwise, it has a trivial cure: deafness.
Edit: Just checked my logs. Clearly the check for whether you're deaf happens when you start to tumble, not when tumble ends. I dunno, between the constant falling asleep and the aching ear canals, it seemed tricky enough to get out anyway. Besides, even if blanknoting the person after they start tumbling keeps them in perfect fifth, that's not useful to you solo for pulling off your instakill; it just makes the skill scarier in group combat.
Edit: Just checked my logs. Clearly the check for whether you're deaf happens when you start to tumble, not when tumble ends. I dunno, between the constant falling asleep and the aching ear canals, it seemed tricky enough to get out anyway. Besides, even if blanknoting the person after they start tumbling keeps them in perfect fifth, that's not useful to you solo for pulling off your instakill; it just makes the skill scarier in group combat.
Furien2007-05-18 05:28:59
Mine too.
And if it's the case as Xavius so eloquently seems to describe it, you're curing a 3 power skill with a simple eating of a herb.
And if it's the case as Xavius so eloquently seems to describe it, you're curing a 3 power skill with a simple eating of a herb.

Shorlen2007-05-18 07:31:47
Oh, cool! It didn't work like that before.... well, earwort =P
Shamarah2007-05-18 10:15:54
Perfectfifth would be totally absurd if stripping deafness during the tumble caused the tumble to fail.
Ashteru2007-05-23 16:32:30
ANNOUNCE NEWS #807
Date: 5/23/2007 at 16:21
From: Sior the Anomaly
To : Everyone
Subj: Envoy Report
Wiccans/Guardians:
- Hex Sense power cost has been reduced to 3
- The random timings of succumb (the curing, and the first hit) have
been removed
- Failing a torture will no longer use power
- Nihilist's Darksliver has been altered so that if the target does not
have insomnia or quicksilver up, it will put them to sleep. As well, if
the target is already asleep, then it will strip kafe
Mages/Druids:
- Geomancy Earthquake, Druidry Regrowth, and Aquamancy Flashflood have
been changed so that if it cast with the effects already up, it will
give the full time for the effects.
- Geomancy Duststorm will no longer effect allies
- Use of Psionic Abilities while off channel balance will no longer
consume willpower
- Highmagic Pentagram and Lowmagic Circle have a new option, PSI, which
raises a psionic barrier similiar in use to a shield, except that it
protects against most forms of psionic attack.
- New ability in Psionics, Shatter, to remove psionic shields
- Gore in Stag will have a flat chance of impaling, instead of being
health dependent
- New option in Crow DarkRebirth that allows you to break an egg
prematurely for 25 carrion to summon the dark spirit into yourself.
- Blacktalon Druidry Spiders will no longer have a chance to afflict
twice
Bards:
- Blanknote will strip a target's shield in addition to the current
function
- Taintedlove will also affect the bard
- ShadowLight's effect has been changed to shroud any allies that can
hear the song, as well as expose any shrouded enemies that can hear the
song
Penned by My hand on the 7th of Urlachmar, in the year 177 CE.
Blanknote seems a bit OP now. Love the change to circle. Darksilver looks sweet now.
Got to test out succumb.
Date: 5/23/2007 at 16:21
From: Sior the Anomaly
To : Everyone
Subj: Envoy Report
Wiccans/Guardians:
- Hex Sense power cost has been reduced to 3
- The random timings of succumb (the curing, and the first hit) have
been removed
- Failing a torture will no longer use power
- Nihilist's Darksliver has been altered so that if the target does not
have insomnia or quicksilver up, it will put them to sleep. As well, if
the target is already asleep, then it will strip kafe
Mages/Druids:
- Geomancy Earthquake, Druidry Regrowth, and Aquamancy Flashflood have
been changed so that if it cast with the effects already up, it will
give the full time for the effects.
- Geomancy Duststorm will no longer effect allies
- Use of Psionic Abilities while off channel balance will no longer
consume willpower
- Highmagic Pentagram and Lowmagic Circle have a new option, PSI, which
raises a psionic barrier similiar in use to a shield, except that it
protects against most forms of psionic attack.
- New ability in Psionics, Shatter, to remove psionic shields
- Gore in Stag will have a flat chance of impaling, instead of being
health dependent
- New option in Crow DarkRebirth that allows you to break an egg
prematurely for 25 carrion to summon the dark spirit into yourself.
- Blacktalon Druidry Spiders will no longer have a chance to afflict
twice
Bards:
- Blanknote will strip a target's shield in addition to the current
function
- Taintedlove will also affect the bard
- ShadowLight's effect has been changed to shroud any allies that can
hear the song, as well as expose any shrouded enemies that can hear the
song
Penned by My hand on the 7th of Urlachmar, in the year 177 CE.
Blanknote seems a bit OP now. Love the change to circle. Darksilver looks sweet now.

Got to test out succumb.
Krellan2007-05-23 18:51:14
So I ran some quick numbers to compare succumb to lash again. Not sure if succumb is affected by the user at all but lash is not and does the same drain to the target no matter who lashes. I have trans magic, actually higher cause of a TF. Lash is not affected by magic defenses, but succumb supposedly is. My starting initial mana is lower with Tchailo cause I was setting up some totem defs, but the max is still 8028. If it matters at all I got hit by succumb first at the aetherplex then went to the moonhart and got lashed.
Tchailo lashing me
5872h, 7983m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
Tchaichlao's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Tchaichlao raises her arms and dances around you, spinning faster and faster.
With each pass around you, she shines with a silver light and your thoughts
become cloudier and cloudier.
5872h, 6991m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
drain=992
Synl succumbing me
5872h, 8028m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
Chanting dark words Synl points towards you, sending a shiver up your spine.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You remove 1 reishi, bringing the total in the Rift to 1304.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You eat a reishi mushroom.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You remove 1 reishi, bringing the total in the Rift to 1303.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You eat a reishi mushroom.
The plant has no effect.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
5872h, 7118m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
The shadows weigh on your thoughts, draining your mental energies.
5872h, 6048m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
The shadows on your mind fade.
5872h, 6048m, 5339e, 10p ex<>
Both ticks do 1070. Can we please have a balance here? Succumb ticks twice before it cures which means it hits for 2140, which is basically a focus spirit to me. it's actually more than a focus spirit hits me for.
EDIT: I forgot I was wearing a torc at this time. The torc absorbs 10% of the drain so the 1070 is actually 90% of what succumb hits for. dividing by 9 and adding that to the 1070 puts it at a 1188.8 repeating drain. not sure if the system would round up or down.
Tchailo lashing me
5872h, 7983m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
Tchaichlao's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Tchaichlao raises her arms and dances around you, spinning faster and faster.
With each pass around you, she shines with a silver light and your thoughts
become cloudier and cloudier.
5872h, 6991m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
drain=992
Synl succumbing me
5872h, 8028m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
Chanting dark words Synl points towards you, sending a shiver up your spine.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You remove 1 reishi, bringing the total in the Rift to 1304.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You eat a reishi mushroom.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You remove 1 reishi, bringing the total in the Rift to 1303.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You eat a reishi mushroom.
The plant has no effect.
5872h, 6958m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
5872h, 7118m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
The shadows weigh on your thoughts, draining your mental energies.
5872h, 6048m, 5339e, 10p ex<>-
The shadows on your mind fade.
5872h, 6048m, 5339e, 10p ex<>
Both ticks do 1070. Can we please have a balance here? Succumb ticks twice before it cures which means it hits for 2140, which is basically a focus spirit to me. it's actually more than a focus spirit hits me for.
EDIT: I forgot I was wearing a torc at this time. The torc absorbs 10% of the drain so the 1070 is actually 90% of what succumb hits for. dividing by 9 and adding that to the 1070 puts it at a 1188.8 repeating drain. not sure if the system would round up or down.
Ashteru2007-05-23 18:55:12
It's 15% per tick, doubletick is bugged right now, and you can't succumb someone who is already succumbed. 

Krellan2007-05-23 18:57:58
QUOTE(Ashteru @ May 23 2007, 01:55 PM) 411163
It's 15% per tick, doubletick is bugged right now, and you can't succumb someone who is already succumbed. 

I was under the impression that each tic is supposed to drain less than each lash. it's already better. And I heard that if you succumb someone who is succumbed they get a smaller drain. But that's not really the point because if you can't succumb somone who is afflicted with succumb....then their mana is still ticking away faster than a lash and more than a lash each time. you don't need to succumb someone who is succumbed.
Ashteru2007-05-23 19:03:13
QUOTE(Krellan @ May 23 2007, 06:57 PM) 411165
I was under the impression that each tic is supposed to drain less than each lash. it's already better. And I heard that if you succumb someone who is succumbed they get a smaller drain. But that's not really the point because if you can't succumb somone who is afflicted with succumb....then their mana is still ticking away faster than a lash and more than a lash each time. you don't need to succumb someone who is succumbed.
Tchaisomething lashed you for about 12.3% of your maxmana, succumb is 2.7% higher, the doubletick is going to be gone soon, and as I said, you get no drain at all if you are getting succumbed while already succumbing.
I'd have been happier if everything else was kept it and would've been just 10% at trans magic, 10%+200 at inept, but eh, it's a 1 second cure now, and you'll only get the doubletick...dunno how often, let Xen explain it.