Malarious2007-04-10 03:01:42
The paralysis change was naturally.. my doing.. it was done to help with hexes.
It allows them ease since they can try to stack impatience with it to get in the wrack. However it is more likely than writhe. And allows attempts to stack focusing.. focus mind removes impatience but then you cant focus body I dont believe.. never tried atually.
The cloak in tracking was a change brought about because of requests on the thread I opened (yes I looked at it!) it wasnt mentioned I dont think but because of that I was asked IG on it. Of the 3 decisions posted cloaking the companion was chosen.
It allows them ease since they can try to stack impatience with it to get in the wrack. However it is more likely than writhe. And allows attempts to stack focusing.. focus mind removes impatience but then you cant focus body I dont believe.. never tried atually.
The cloak in tracking was a change brought about because of requests on the thread I opened (yes I looked at it!) it wasnt mentioned I dont think but because of that I was asked IG on it. Of the 3 decisions posted cloaking the companion was chosen.
Unknown2007-04-10 03:28:07
Actually If I recall previous nihilist envoys have been asking for paralysis as a condition for wrack/torture for a while now. As Ildaudid said, it might be a little too powerful. Only time will tell.
Malarious2007-04-10 03:51:14
Not thinking it shoudl be huge... writhe/tiph versus.. focus body.. focus body being like 1 second if you are trans?
Furien2007-04-10 04:22:09
I think it's 1.5 seconds at trans, but the big deal is:
4.5 at inept (or somewhere around there. 3.5? Still big). It may need tweaking when it comes to those who don't have oodles of credits.
4.5 at inept (or somewhere around there. 3.5? Still big). It may need tweaking when it comes to those who don't have oodles of credits.
Unknown2007-04-10 04:28:46
Quick question...but were the random scourged demon attacks ever fixed? Like for instance lets say you had stupidity/anorexia/shackles invested. Sometimes you would get double afflictions, like two shackle hits at once (useless). I remember some people pushing to get that changed so double entourage attacks would be so no two of the same afflictions would hit at once....any confirm? :/
Ildaudid2007-04-10 04:30:32
Let's see how it does, it was not meant to be balanced in group combat, envoys are looked at more 1 on 1, so everything can look worse in group, 10 people with mantakaya blades may make a wrack super easy. But one on one it may be just fine. So let's just see how it turns out.
Malarious2007-04-10 05:21:52
Yes Balizar. Demons now attack in order of invests.. Scourge uses the first two in line (if you didnt start the order earlier).. so if you use anorexia stupidity shackles.. scourged will anorexia stupidity then shackles anorexia.. etc
Unknown2007-04-10 05:30:33
ahh so it isn't random anymore, nice


Vaerhon2007-04-10 05:41:41
That order of investments change is nice.
The three you use as an example work well in that order, too. How long does a scourge stay up? 2 attacks? 3? More?
The three you use as an example work well in that order, too. How long does a scourge stay up? 2 attacks? 3? More?
Lysandus2007-04-10 05:46:36
5 at the cost of 10 power.
Ildaudid2007-04-10 06:01:59
The bond cloak is nice, but I think it has caused a bug when it was implemented. I won't mention the bug here, but argh!! I hope they work that kink out. Other than that I am lovin it!!
Ixion2007-04-10 22:28:48
QUOTE(Furien @ Apr 10 2007, 12:22 AM) 397139
I think it's 1.5 seconds at trans, but the big deal is:
4.5 at inept (or somewhere around there. 3.5? Still big). It may need tweaking when it comes to those who don't have oodles of credits.
4.5 at inept (or somewhere around there. 3.5? Still big). It may need tweaking when it comes to those who don't have oodles of credits.
1 second at trans.
Clise2007-04-11 02:28:54
How much bleeding does torture do now? It might actually be viable for a hexen nihilist.
Unknown2007-04-11 12:49:41
I don't know if it changed recently but last time I checked (a month or two ago) I got around 370 bleeding.
Malarious2007-04-12 10:28:36
Forums being worreid.. getting a cant display page.. I hit back and its where I intended to be...
Anyway torture is insane when oyu -stack- it.. remember when the arenas were changed so bleeding stopped when leaving? My bad... but when my opponennt lets without kingdom and like 1200-1500 bleeding.. died.. vitaed.. called broom.. flew.. and bled to death again.. giving her veng on me without me lifting a finger.. it had to have that change.
The bleeding can stack but if they clot it down they wont have a hige issue.. and at 3 power apiece... ouch. Damage isnt that great and is affected by resilience. If they dont clot.. you might pull something.. can try it with sleep to let bleeding go for it while they sleep.. but we will check on that.. yay another thing to try.
Anyway torture is insane when oyu -stack- it.. remember when the arenas were changed so bleeding stopped when leaving? My bad... but when my opponennt lets without kingdom and like 1200-1500 bleeding.. died.. vitaed.. called broom.. flew.. and bled to death again.. giving her veng on me without me lifting a finger.. it had to have that change.
The bleeding can stack but if they clot it down they wont have a hige issue.. and at 3 power apiece... ouch. Damage isnt that great and is affected by resilience. If they dont clot.. you might pull something.. can try it with sleep to let bleeding go for it while they sleep.. but we will check on that.. yay another thing to try.
Unknown2007-04-12 17:03:42
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Apr 9 2007, 11:28 PM) 397100
Actually If I recall previous nihilist envoys have been asking for paralysis as a condition for wrack/torture for a while now. As Ildaudid said, it might be a little too powerful. Only time will tell.
Mostly out of curiosity, but if it turns out that paralysis is easy enough to get/stick that it becomes a non-issue, how is it any different than absolve? I actually don't know the answer to this. From my understanding, they're both instant, half-mana kills except that wrack requires being bound as well. Are the Nihilists inherently better at draining mana than Celestines and thus need the extra requirement?
Sylphas2007-04-12 18:28:08
Absolve is either 8 or 10 power, I can't remember which. Wrack is 5. Not sure how much of a difference that makes.
Unknown2007-04-12 18:40:18
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Apr 12 2007, 02:28 PM) 398031
Absolve is either 8 or 10 power, I can't remember which. Wrack is 5. Not sure how much of a difference that makes.
Well, it makes a big difference because if you try to absolve and you miss, you lose 8 power. If you try to wrack and you miss, you don't lose any at all.
And, even if you did, you could still wrack again. You'd be far away from being able to absolve again (6 power short if you had a full prompt) if you miss that.
Ashteru2007-04-12 18:44:10
if you got contemplate and at least a basic understanding of triggers, it's very hard to miss absolve, though.
Ildaudid2007-04-12 18:47:46
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Apr 12 2007, 02:44 PM) 398034
if you got contemplate and at least a basic understanding of triggers, it's very hard to miss absolve, though.
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