I don't see the problem with it, if it is just a weaker form of something pureblades already have. (Unless they have failed to update a healing skillset cure for it which usually happens with new afflictions. 
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Edit:I'm unsure if I like all of these hat smilies as much as the old ones, some are better, some aren't. That guy just looks sad to me instead of unsure.
)Edit:I'm unsure if I like all of these hat smilies as much as the old ones, some are better, some aren't. That guy just looks sad to me instead of unsure.
QUOTE(Ixion @ Feb 12 2007, 09:34 AM) 382595
I assure people would be crying (and rightly so to an extent) if slitthroat was a jab. It would be utterly insane how easy it would be to get.
As Geb mentioned, hack downs are unreliable via chest hits. The other, and more impacting factors that currently stop head swings which further that sentiment are obvious (rebound, shield, but mainly parry/stance). Also, the unfortunate eventuality of "let's see how it works and then go from there" is quite the poor way to balance things after the fact. There are only a handful of BCs who fight at all and even less who fight extensively, so it won't be seen much.
I've not seen it in action yet, but if it's as I hear (jab head affliction, identical to slitthroat with different cures) then just wow..
As Geb mentioned, hack downs are unreliable via chest hits. The other, and more impacting factors that currently stop head swings which further that sentiment are obvious (rebound, shield, but mainly parry/stance). Also, the unfortunate eventuality of "let's see how it works and then go from there" is quite the poor way to balance things after the fact. There are only a handful of BCs who fight at all and even less who fight extensively, so it won't be seen much.
I've not seen it in action yet, but if it's as I hear (jab head affliction, identical to slitthroat with different cures) then just wow..
Crush windpipe being a jab, well that is not a real good thing, maneuver perform for a 2 strike jab that can crush windpipe, with venoms of senso and chansu. If slit throat was a jab, you all would flip out.
In the mean time, I will not be anywhere near a BC, not until I get ahold of the cure lines or something. That skill is insanely easy to pull off. Last night was sad, the update came out and some BC's went raiding, killing everyone with windpipe locks. But yeah if you want me defending and a BC is there, do not bother asking, I may be crazy..... but I am not stupid.
And whoever said, just cleanse, you have to remember most people who fight have systems, they will loop, and not be able to cleanse until they get the lines that tell them it's crushed windpipe. I saw a few people loop to death last night. Apply health head spam.....
I just really don't like it being a jab at all, that in itself is way too OP. They have 2 weapons, capable of 2 venom hits per attack, they also get a much higher percentage to hit with said venoms the higher the wounds are to your head, so lets say they pulp your head 2 times, now your wounds are up enough that both venoms have a high chance of hitting. Now a maneuver with 2 jabs, windpipe affliction and venoms is all they need to totally screw you up.
But that is my opinion, hopefully people will get their asses handed to them this next week and see how easy crush windpipe is. I wouldn't mind the slitlock thing, but swings, not jabs.
You may as well make slitlock a jab, and see how that goes. Only time will tell
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Feb 12 2007, 05:41 PM) 382636
Crush windpipe being a jab, well that is not a real good thing, maneuver perform for a 2 strike jab that can crush windpipe, with venoms of senso and chansu. If slit throat was a jab, you all would flip out.
In the mean time, I will not be anywhere near a BC, not until I get ahold of the cure lines or something. That skill is insanely easy to pull off. Last night was sad, the update came out and some BC's went raiding, killing everyone with windpipe locks. But yeah if you want me defending and a BC is there, do not bother asking, I may be crazy..... but I am not stupid.
And whoever said, just cleanse, you have to remember most people who fight have systems, they will loop, and not be able to cleanse until they get the lines that tell them it's crushed windpipe. I saw a few people loop to death last night. Apply health head spam.....
I just really don't like it being a jab at all, that in itself is way too OP. They have 2 weapons, capable of 2 venom hits per attack, they also get a much higher percentage to hit with said venoms the higher the wounds are to your head, so lets say they pulp your head 2 times, now your wounds are up enough that both venoms have a high chance of hitting. Now a maneuver with 2 jabs, windpipe affliction and venoms is all they need to totally screw you up.
But that is my opinion, hopefully people will get their asses handed to them this next week and see how easy crush windpipe is. I wouldn't mind the slitlock thing, but swings, not jabs.
You may as well make slitlock a jab, and see how that goes. Only time will tell
In the mean time, I will not be anywhere near a BC, not until I get ahold of the cure lines or something. That skill is insanely easy to pull off. Last night was sad, the update came out and some BC's went raiding, killing everyone with windpipe locks. But yeah if you want me defending and a BC is there, do not bother asking, I may be crazy..... but I am not stupid.
And whoever said, just cleanse, you have to remember most people who fight have systems, they will loop, and not be able to cleanse until they get the lines that tell them it's crushed windpipe. I saw a few people loop to death last night. Apply health head spam.....
I just really don't like it being a jab at all, that in itself is way too OP. They have 2 weapons, capable of 2 venom hits per attack, they also get a much higher percentage to hit with said venoms the higher the wounds are to your head, so lets say they pulp your head 2 times, now your wounds are up enough that both venoms have a high chance of hitting. Now a maneuver with 2 jabs, windpipe affliction and venoms is all they need to totally screw you up.
But that is my opinion, hopefully people will get their asses handed to them this next week and see how easy crush windpipe is. I wouldn't mind the slitlock thing, but swings, not jabs.
You may as well make slitlock a jab, and see how that goes. Only time will tell
It should be made into a swing, the only problem I can see with it is that you can do it with crushes. I'm not to worried though ethelons the only good bonecrushers around at the moment no one else is much of a worry really.
EDIT: Oh forgot
afflicted:
crushes your throat, crushing your windpipe.
on going:
Your crushed windpipe inhibits your ability to swallow.
cured:
The cartilage and nerves in your windpipe heal and your voice returns.
Say thanks to some ur'guard kid, erm now I think of it though I didn't check to cure with arnica the cure is probally the same but you may want to check it out.
Two possible cures: apply arnica to head or smoke myrtle. You can't eat, drink, or speak, but you can smoke and apply. The combination of being able to smoke and having two possible cures makes it balanced with SlitThroat, in my opinion. I think that once people learn to integrate it into their curing, they'll see it as not overpowered and go back to complaining about other abilities/afflictions. Nothing to see here! Move along! 
QUOTE(diamondais @ Feb 12 2007, 06:36 PM) 382738
Scan.
Scan's more like an upgraded birdseye. Scent is leagues better.
QUOTE(Xavius @ Feb 12 2007, 07:48 PM) 382746
Scan's more like an upgraded birdseye. Scent is leagues better.
Scan is horrible compared to scent.
And tracking should have scent, I mean at least bond scent, they have a hound that can track a person across the basin and bring people something, should at least be able to scent.
(cus the old smileys are replaced by these catholic smilies argh!)