Pshh, you should really see me when I am trolling....

Maelstrom does not have cold damage in its formula. Therefore.. why would it be modified by deluged terrain?

I'd assume it's probably not modified. Still, might be worth testing and posting a log just to keep everyone from complaining about it.

Oh about Pollute

Syntax: UNLEASH STAFF
Power: 10 (Megalith of Doom)
Damage Type: 100% Poison
Damage Source: Magical

So yeah its 100% poison, but whether the damage can be mitigated ... I don't know

100% poison attack is a joke. Like what is that going to do? Can you post the Maelstrom one lets list the "same" power attack side by side.... I think you will find Maelstrom is much more benificial, and deadly.

You can actually time the damage of the demesne to go off with Pollute, since the effects don't die until it fires.

Also - notice the damage type. It can be modified with intelligence.

Maelstrom doesn't have a damage type. No modification to the damage.

Umm Forren will you post Maelstrom then??


Damage Type: 100% Poison

What can you modify to poison??
Also how much can you modify poison?? it doesn't matter if you had 25 int. Its not going to make a real big difference to a poison attack, which never effects anyone??

But do show Maelstrom, I would love to see what type of attack that is....

It's 25% electric, 25% heat, 25% asphyx, 25% unblockable.

Aqua demesne does hardly any damage.

Ok now add that to most races:

Aslaran/Furrikin/Igasho/Lucidian/Mugwump/Orclach/Trill - extra fire damage

Mugwump/Krokani/ - extra electric


I didn't put Merians in there since most Merians are from Celest but they have fire/electric

Now.... NOTHING and that means NO CLASS has an extra Posion damage modifier.

So explain to me how Pollute is on par with Maelstrom? Since Maelstrom causes extra damage to 9/18 races.... that means it cause extra damage to 50% of the races in Lusternia, while Pollute causes extra damage to 0/18??

Now, how many races are resistant to poison? Oh, one?

And they're mostly Magnagoran

Seriously Ildaudid, stop the constant whining about Mag being underpowered, its annoying and untrue.

Yes, uh one, and that would be like a merian being immune to water attacks..... c'mon how many non mag viscanti's do you see roaming the basin?? They are a horrible spec race for the sipping penalty alone. Now think about what you just said. When is Pollute going to come into play against a Viscanti? Never.

So your point was???

Sorry my child, I am only stating the obvious. That being Maelstrom is superior to Pollution... Now if you can back up that it isn't with fact. Do not sit here and call me a liar. Every thing I just posted was based off the game scrolls.... you can check racial disadvantages as easily as anything else.

So I am sorry you cannot handle that Aquamancy has a skill that really should be more balanced out. But if you think I am wrong back up your reasons why, don't sit there and just say I am lying. This :censor: is too good to even begin to make up

The problem I see with you is, basically, if it is a Celestian skill, you jump that it is not OP, that it is fine and that everyone else is whining. Stop following the bandwagon and do the reasearch yourself Acrune and see. Maybe then you will have facts to back up what is considered overpowered and what isn't.

Problem is, merians are just as susceptible to most aqua attacks as everyone else. Viscanti have a pretty major advantage.
IN ENEMY SAME-CITY DEMESNE (unlikely in the first place):
MERIAN: get water lvl 2 health regen
VISCANTI: lvl 3
MERIAN: ...asphyxiation lvl 1? lvl 2? not even main part of attack (only 25% of staff, 25% of maelstrom)
VISCANTI: poison lvl 3 (omfg 100% of pollute, large parts of other attacks)

But the actual point was that NO RACES GET RESISTANCES TO POISON EXCEPT FOR ONE RACE THAT WILL NOT EVER FACE A GEOMANCER. Heck, I'm pretty sure Psionics biofeedback doesn't cover, no robe proofings... tell me a poison protection. Fire and electric? Biofeedback and robe proofings, plus probably many others, like elementshield, maybe raise staff (spiritshield), and no doubt many other abilities. Remember that there are some races that are in fact resistant to fire and electric.

So that means Pollute is actually *bad* against...one race. Viscanti. Everything else is neutral, and fire and electric can easily be proofed to stop. Asphyxiation...please. There are two resistances to it, and... no susceptibility.

Asphyxiation means 1/4 of the damage can be cut off by just using hold breath. It's incredibly easy to time. Ask Geb. He also like numening.

Heat and electric.. proofings, anyone? Potions too.

Maelstrom is really the Hail Mary of Aquamancy. If it doesn't work, I'm screwed in terms of my offense and power.

Generally, if you die to maelstrom, you're going to die to hailstorms anyway.

What is your point? How often are you fighting your city mates? other than a FFA or Wargame? Poison damage is nothing Gandal, it is a joke. Yes you can proof all your stuff to help defend against electric/fire/magic etc. But in the end, if I were to hit you (a merian) with something that causes elec damage
you would end up with a lot more damage than if I were to hit you with something that caused poison damage.... The same for me, if I (human) were hit with something that caused elec damage I would get alot more damage done to me even in proofed stuff than I would if I got hit with poison damage. So for a 10 power skill, Pollution is NOT equal to Maelstrom, Maelstrom will kill you, Pollution may make you hungry.

Geb has never died to to maelstrom in the many spars we've conducted ever since he learned how to avoid it. I think I killed him once with it, and it was very easy to avoid.

Keep in mind, maelstrom drains certain things that make me extremely vulnerable to certain classes if you know I'm maelstromming.

In terms of raw damage, combine demesne damage + pollute for the true numbers.

Not true.

Damage Source: Magical

I think he meant Damage Source. Silly Forren.