There are only 2 - 3 serenguard fighters who stand out, and the best fighter doesn't fight outside arena

As far as I know, not a single serenguard even has elemental runes.

Serenguard are inferior, simply because Rituals/Necromancy and Rituals/Sacraments is far superior for Warriors then Totems/Moon and Totems/Stag could even begin to be considered. It's like they are fighting without a third skill almost, because most of the abilities have little effect for them, save swiftstripes/stagform, and drawdown, and that's all they have.

Rage is not useless by the way:

3112h, 4252m, 10p x-
Thaemorn sprints in from the north.
3112h, 4708m, 10p exk-
Thaemorn makes a sudden gesture at you and a bolt of black energy shoots out
from his outward stretched palm and shatters your magical shield of protection.
3112h, 4708m, 10p exk-
Tuek, from afar, thrusts his palm and a burst of silver light shoots from the
palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
2426h, 4708m, 10p exk-
Charis, from afar, thrusts her palm and a burst of silver light shoots from the
palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
1828h, 4358m, 10p xk-
Ibaesha, from afar, thrusts her palm and a burst of silver light shoots from
the palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
1053h, 4358m, 10p xk-
The potion heals and soothes you.
1465h, 4358m, 10p xk-
Gwylifar, from afar, thrusts his palm and a burst of silver light shoots from
the palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
690h, 4358m, 10p xk-
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
1001h, 4708m, 10p xk-
Small motes of yellow pollen rise up from the wildflowers around you and drift
into your mouth. Your throat begins to scratch, forcing you to cough.
1001h, 4708m, 10p xk-
Tenqual, from afar, thrusts his palm and a burst of silver light shoots from
the palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
315h, 4708m, 10p xk-
A bolt of whitest lightning streaks down from the heavens and engulfs you. You
writhe and shake in noiseless agony as the pure electricity ripples over your
body.
The white mist here washes over you in a wave of ghostly tendrils.
77h, 4708m, 10p xk-
Valandriel, from afar, thrusts his palm and a burst of silver light shoots from
the palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
Your vision blurs as lunar energy vibrates deep within your being, building to
a crescendo of pain. You open your mouth to scream but moonlight streams from
between your lips as your entire body is consumed by the power of the moon.
You have been slain by Valandriel.
Your body begins the process of transforming into a lich.
0h, 4708m, 10p ex-

Run away as a soul...

The powers of Nil are yours and you drink deeply of the darkness, transforming
into the powerful form of a lich.
3112h, 4252m, 0p x-
You hear a rustling and turn to see Thaemorn emerging from the undergrowth.
3112h, 4467m, 0p exk-
Thaemorn makes a sudden gesture at you and a bolt of black energy shoots out
from his outward stretched palm and shatters your magical shield of protection.
3112h, 4542m, 0p exk-
Tuek, from afar, thrusts his palm and a burst of silver light shoots from the
palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
2232h, 4542m, 0p exk-
Valandriel, from afar, thrusts his palm and a burst of silver light shoots from
the palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
953h, 4542m, 0p exk-
Charis, from afar, thrusts her palm and a burst of silver light shoots from the
palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
185h, 4542m, 0p exk-
The potion heals and soothes you.
602h, 4542m, 0p exk-
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
913h, 4708m, 0p exk-
Ibaesha, from afar, thrusts her palm and a burst of silver light shoots from
the palm and hits you, burning you painfully.
Your vision blurs as lunar energy vibrates deep within your being, building to
a crescendo of pain. You open your mouth to scream but moonlight streams from
between your lips as your entire body is consumed by the power of the moon.
You have been slain by Ibaesha.
0h, 4708m, 0p ex-

not to mention you serens have Rage and all those other skills which were used so effectively on ethereal!

2107h, 1759m, 3260e, 8p elrxk-
Valandriel thrusts his palm towards you and a burst of silver light shoots from
it and hits you, burning you painfully.
748h, 1759m, 3260e, 8p

Cmon thats like a 1400 damage moonburst from an elfen, I take less from a hailstrom or staff from any mage.

Besides the fact that we were two rooms away, squinting south at your group, while you were in our demesne, heh. And no, I like Rage. Then again, we did have larger numbers. And group combat has always been about raw damage. I never said Rage was useless.

Holy, how did she do that much damage. Hmmm...

Ok, that was definitely a fluke, just had her test on me and a few other targets.

What's your Magic skilllevel, Thorgal?

She also has a knowledge blessing, so that's 20 intelligence... but still, a fluke.. kind of like that one time Ceres staff did only 700 damage to me while I was a Mugwump, and we tested it a few minutes later and it was doing ~1800 every time.

Edit: Oh, that was Murphy's log, not Thorgal's. Did you have surge up, by the way Murphy? Damage, specifically magical source damage (Magic/Elemental) is based mostly on max health. Knight damage is as well, but also has a very high base.

My magic is expert.

And no it wasn't a fluke, she did 1400 to Murphy and 1300 to me afterwards.

I take 700 from a 20 intelligence cosmicfire..1400 from a 20 intelligence moonburst.

I'm inept magic too, i should get around to transing it. but thats about the same damage I do to knights, and you're doing it from afar?

Thats more damage over time than me (non-pulping) factoring in misses stances and rebounding........

Being a mage in Achaea was so awesome......cataclysm

Being a Mage in Imperian was better...... they got to keep worldwide cataclysm. Achaea is for pansies.

Just something I found funny.





Wished we had more decent fighters there though.

That little bug pops up heaps.

Nice log. Keep bringing the entertainment.

We've been through this. You heal far more.

Gregori, why did you cudgel? There's no way you can hope for decent damage against a fully deffed Ur'guard with putrefaction. Curse, as shown by Zephyriel, does twice as much.

I really want to see more of these logs fighting on Ethereal, group fights have to be my favorite. I like watching lots and lots of people die, it makes it so much better.

He obviously isn't tanky enough. He can kill a Supernal alone, but he isn't tanky enough.

If someone would like to give me access to a level 80 Celestine with good armour, the trans skills of Narsrim, etc. I will show tank Raziela. I'll gladly do the same as a Nihilist or Ur'guard.