No luck against bad luck

by Veyrzhul

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Veyrzhul2010-08-27 20:08:35
So here's my latest attempt against someone with Paradigmatics:


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The fire blossom gardens.
Veins of molten fire course through the basalt archway, while flickering flames dance across its frame. Grand Preceptor Egran, Left Wingnut is here. He wields a flying dragon klangaxe with both hands.
You see exits leading northeast, south, southwest, and west.
8069h, 5754m, 6072e, 10p, 29350en, 21870w Slrxkdb<>-


His eyes glowing a fearsome yellow, Egran stares at you with a burning gaze, and you cannot help but shudder at the intensity of the malice directed towards you.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 6054m, 6072e, 10p, 29350en, 21870w Slrxkdb<>-


Egran takes a drink from an opal vial.
8069h, 6054m, 6072e, 10p, 29350en, 21870w Slrxkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1888.
8069h, 6054m, 6072e, 10p, 29350en, 21870w Slrxkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
You no longer have any temporary insanity.
8069h, 6054m, 6072e, 10p, 29350en, 21870w Slrxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
8069h, 6054m, 6072e, 10p, 29370en, 21898w Slrxkdb<>-


You have recovered equilibrium.
look
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29370en, 21898w eSlrxkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hinder1
The fire blossom gardens.
Fields of vibrant fire blossoms stretch out as far as the eye can see, their vivid reddish-orange petals glowing like burning flames. Verdurous foliage cradles each of the fiery flowers as they sway on their own accord, their delicate perfume intoxicating to the senses. Burning motes of light drift through the air, released by the blossoming flowers as they bloom and glowing like a burning ember. The calescent air is dry and dense, waves of heat seemingly draining the life from the atmosphere but somehow fueling the vibrancy of the blossoms. Streaks of rubescent cloud stretch across the skies, setting it ablaze in a scintillating display of fiery colour. Veins of molten fire course through the basalt archway, while flickering flames dance across its frame. Grand Preceptor Egran, Left Wingnut is here. He wields a flying dragon klangaxe with both hands.
You see exits leading northeast, south, southwest, and west.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29370en, 21898w eSlrxkdb<>-

You attempt the Kata form of hinder1.
* ka shofa egran chest left
Your aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
An imperial jade and gold shofa hits nothing but air as you swing it at Egran.
* ka shofa egran chest right
Thirteen sparrows suddenly fly in and swarm around you, breaking your concentration.
smoke 95874
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29363en, 21898w Srkdb<>-


His eyes glowing a fiery red, Egran looks at you, quickly looks away, then looks back at you with a malicious glint in his eye.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29363en, 21898w Srkdb<>-

You take a long drag off your pipe.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29363en, 21898w Srkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1887.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29363en, 21898w Srkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
You no longer have any temporary insanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29363en, 21898w Srkdb<>-


You have recovered equilibrium.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29383en, 21900w eSrkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29383en, 21900w eSrkdb<>-


You have recovered balance on your legs.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29383en, 21900w eSrxkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold1

You have recovered balance on your left arm.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29383en, 21900w eSlrxkdb<>-

You attempt the Kata form of hold1.
* ka hold egran
Thirteen sparrows suddenly fly in and swarm around you, breaking your concentration.
You are unable to continue executing your Kata form.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29383en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


Eyes flashing with rainbow colours, Egran stares intently at you. Strange thoughts and perceptions challenge your grip on reality. When you finally pull yourself away from Egran's gaze, you find yourself twitching and drooling.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29383en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


You hear whispers that make no sense but tickle the back of your mind and make you want to scream.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

Egran takes a drink from an opal vial.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1886.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a slight case of temporary insanity.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


A blush begins to creep up your neck and into your face as you come to the realisation that there are other people here!
You must regain balance first.
compose
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

You take a drink from a ruby vial.
Your shyness has been cured. You can now face the world boldly.
compose
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

There is nothing to fear but fear itself.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold1
There is nothing to fear but fear itself.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


You have recovered balance on all limbs.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrxkdb<>-

You attempt the Kata form of hold1.
* ka hold egran
Your concentration is shattered as you trip over a mirror, which breaks into a thousand pieces.
You are unable to continue executing your Kata form.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1885.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a slight case of temporary insanity.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


You may drink another purgative or curing potion.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


Eyes flashing with rainbow colours, Egran stares intently at you. Strange thoughts and perceptions challenge your grip on reality. When you finally pull yourself away from Egran's gaze, you find yourself twitching and drooling.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1884.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a slight case of temporary insanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrkdb<>-


You have recovered balance on all limbs.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
kata perform Egran hold1
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrxkdb<>-

You attempt the Kata form of hold1.
* ka hold egran
Your aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
You firmly hold Egran in place with an iron-strong grip.
Your momentum increases.
smoke 95874
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1883.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a slight case of temporary insanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You take a long drag off your pipe.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You hear whispers that make no sense but tickle the back of your mind and make you want to scream.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


Eyes flashing with rainbow colours, Egran stares intently at you. Strange thoughts and perceptions challenge your grip on reality. When you finally pull yourself away from Egran's gaze, you find yourself twitching and drooling.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1882.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a slight case of temporary insanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You have recovered balance on your right arm.
You have recovered balance on your left arm.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-


Egran carefully writhes out of your grapple, escaping your grasp.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold1
You attempt the Kata form of hold1.
* ka hold egran
Out of nowhere, a ladder falls onto your head, breaking your concentration and causing you to stumble.
You are unable to continue executing your Kata form.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1881.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Sanity returns to you and you are no longer demented.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


Eyes flashing with rainbow colours, Egran stares intently at you. Strange thoughts and perceptions challenge your grip on reality. When you finally pull yourself away from Egran's gaze, you find yourself twitching and drooling.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1880.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold1
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a slight case of temporary insanity.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


You have recovered balance on all limbs.
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w eSlrxkdb<>-

You attempt the Kata form of hold1.
* ka hold egran
Your aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
You firmly hold Egran in place with an iron-strong grip.
Your momentum increases.
smoke 95874
8069h, 6072m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You take a long drag off your pipe.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1879.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a slight case of temporary insanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


Eyes flashing with rainbow colours, Egran stares intently at you. Strange thoughts and perceptions challenge your grip on reality. When you finally pull yourself away from Egran's gaze, you find yourself twitching and drooling.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


Egran empties out an opal vial into his mouth.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You hear whispers that make no sense but tickle the back of your mind and make you want to scream.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 1mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You have recovered balance on your right arm.
You have recovered balance on your left arm.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-


Egran carefully writhes out of your grapple, escaping your grasp.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29400en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold1
You attempt the Kata form of hold1.
* ka hold egran
You firmly hold Egran in place with an iron-strong grip.
Your momentum increases.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1878.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a moderate case of temporary insanity.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You eat a platter of chicken, rice and salad with gusto.
As you crunch through the radishes, you sigh contentedly for the chicken is cooked to perfection and combines with the rice, salad and black bean sauce into a delicious, unique flavour.
Your constitution is enhanced by eating a platter of chicken, rice and salad.
8069h, 5997m, 6072e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


Your magic tome warms as it absorbs damage.
The psionic field around your mind lashes out at Egran.
Egran winces painfully and rubs his forehead.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
His eyes turning into starry orbs of pitch black, Egran gazes deep into your eyes. You feel his thoughts boring into your own and you cannot resist the plundering of your spiritual essence. Egran cries out in triumph and you cannot help but scream in abject pain and humiliation as the core of your very self is laid bare before you.
-

The allheale burns your throat and makes your eyes water.
Your senses return in a rush.
7405h, 5390m, 5496e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You have recovered balance on your right arm.
You have recovered balance on your left arm.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1877.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-


You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a moderate case of temporary insanity.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29393en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-


Egran carefully writhes out of your grapple, escaping your grasp.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29413en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-


Egran takes a drink from a moonstone vial.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29413en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold2

Egran takes a drink from a bloodstone vial.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29413en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

You attempt the Kata form of hold2.
* ka hold egran
A bag of salt that you didn't realize you were carrying splits open, showering the coarse granules everywhere. You curse as some get into your eyes and break your concentration.
You must regain balance first.
You are unable to continue executing your Kata form.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29413en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29413en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1876.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29413en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a slight case of temporary insanity.
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29413en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold2
You attempt the Kata form of hold2.
* ka hold egran
Your aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
You must regain balance first.
You are unable to continue executing your Kata form.
smoke 95874
7405h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29406en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


You hear whispers that make no sense but tickle the back of your mind and make you want to scream.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8249h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29406en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold2
You take a long drag off your pipe.
8249h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29406en, 21900w, 2mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


Eyes flashing with rainbow colours, Egran stares intently at you. Strange thoughts and perceptions challenge your grip on reality. When you finally pull yourself away from Egran's gaze, you find yourself twitching and drooling.
You are afflicted with temporaryinsanity.
8249h, 5690m, 5496e, 10p, 29406en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrkdb<>- eSlrkdb<>-


You have recovered balance on all limbs.
outr faeleaf
put faeleaf in 95874
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29406en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29426en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

The hold2 Kata form is too complex for you to execute at this time.
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29426en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

You remove 1 faeleaf, bringing the total in the rift to 1829.
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29426en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

You fill your pipe with a stalk of faeleaf.
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29426en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1875.
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29426en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a moderate case of temporary insanity.
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29426en, 21900w, 1mo eSlrxkdb<>- eSlrxkdb<>-

kata perform Egran hold1
You attempt the Kata form of hold1.
* ka hold egran
You firmly hold Egran in place with an iron-strong grip.
Your momentum increases.
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29419en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


You may eat or smoke another herb.
outr pennyroyal
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29419en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the rift to 1874.
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29419en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-

You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
Your sanity partially returns, but you still suffer from a moderate case of temporary insanity.
8417h, 5736m, 5817e, 10p, 29419en, 21900w, 2mo eSxkdb<>- eSxkdb<>-


Muttering under his breath, Egran points at you, and a cold tremor courses through you. Your vision is filled with strange landscapes of impossible geometries and alien thoughts. Unable to withstand the mental and spiritual onslaught, you try to scream but your entire consciousness shatters as you helplessly watch your body break apart into a shower of wildly vibrating colours.
You have been slain by Egran.
» Kills: 0 Deaths: 1 (Egran)

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It's simply ridiculous and I cannot see how just increasing the power cost of badluck changes -anything- about it, unless you make it 10 power for the minute.
Maybe it's not even only badluck but the whole skillset, but I think badluck is the core of it.
Veyrzhul2010-08-27 20:17:02
I think one important part of the problem is that half of the curing for temporary insanity (focus mind) is turned against you by Badluck. Not only does it mean you might gain insanity instead of curing it, at the same time it stalls your offense greatly.
Gregori2010-08-27 20:28:57
You don't gain insanity from badluck.
Veyrzhul2010-08-27 20:36:13
Right, not when it ticks... but I think this log deserves a bit more of a statement from your side than that.
Gregori2010-08-27 20:40:45
Try harder.
Veyrzhul2010-08-27 20:47:01
Who lets someone like you be envoy, I wonder... but anyway:

I couldn't build any offense due to badluck.
I couldn't cure insanity properly since focus mind would have had me lose balance even more.
Gregori2010-08-27 20:50:58
Actually you can cure insanity just fine against a templar with just pennyroyal. What you should be running to the forums crying about is the bug we were told was fixed being back, and that being that he illuminated you at moderate insanity. Which actually means this whole thread is a posting of a bug, which means it should be deleted for posting bugs on forums.


Man, you just have no luck.
Xavius2010-08-27 21:03:27
QUOTE (Gregori @ Aug 27 2010, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually you can cure insanity just fine against a templar with just pennyroyal. What you should be running to the forums crying about is the bug we were told was fixed being back, and that being that he illuminated you at moderate insanity. Which actually means this whole thread is a posting of a bug, which means it should be deleted for posting bugs on forums.


Man, you just have no luck.

Damn it all, someone told me they fixed that, and Ruiku was resisting all day long because I couldn't get him to massive insanity.
Casilu2010-08-27 21:05:46
QUOTE (Gregori @ Aug 27 2010, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually you can cure insanity just fine against a templar with just pennyroyal. What you should be running to the forums crying about is the bug we were told was fixed being back, and that being that he illuminated you at moderate insanity. Which actually means this whole thread is a posting of a bug, which means it should be deleted for posting bugs on forums.


Man, you just have no luck.


I lol'd.
Gregori2010-08-27 21:06:12
QUOTE (Xavius @ Aug 27 2010, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn it all, someone told me they fixed that, and Ruiku was resisting all day long because I couldn't get him to massive insanity.



I was told it was fixed too and have had it say "You need massive insanity to illuminate", Tlarras insisted though the bug was back. Seems it is in some form anyways.
Veyrzhul2010-08-27 21:23:35
QUOTE (Gregori @ Aug 27 2010, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually you can cure insanity just fine against a templar with just pennyroyal. What you should be running to the forums crying about is the bug we were told was fixed being back, and that being that he illuminated you at moderate insanity. Which actually means this whole thread is a posting of a bug, which means it should be deleted for posting bugs on forums.


Man, you just have no luck.


I wouldn't call this 'curing just fine', considering I was at moderate within fairly short time and him not even trying to put up a full offense including weapon attacks with poisons. Adding dulak into the equation (or mantakaya, should badluck also proc on focus body) would make this harder, not easier.

The stacking balance loss needs to go so you can actually use what's listed under 'HELP CURELIST' to cure insanity without running the risk of being completely immobilized forever. Failing to cure with focus mind now and then and experiencing a short balance loss for that is fine, but right now, it's quite infeasible as a cure for something it SHOULD cure.

Also, for anyone with a mediocre or bad link, chasing balances happens via spamming attacks. It's not visible in this log, but from what I recall, badluck can also proc on mere attempts to attack, even if you're off balance. That needs to change; otherwise, badluck also slows down anyone who doesn't have his system track balances and send attacks (which is simply not feasible for people with a suboptimal link).
Gregori2010-08-27 21:28:36
Badluck doesn't proc, period, if you are off balance except in the case of focus. So, no it doesn't proc on spamming attacks even if you are off balance already.

Also mantakaya has zero to do with your curing insanity, badluck doesn't give insanity if it procs. You having to focus body has no bearing whatsoever on your ability to eat pennyroyal. So, no, mantakaya would not have made your curing insanity harder. Dulak I will grant you, assuming it stuck. Getting you to moderate insanity is not much and you should have dropped that down again to slight or none before he could get you to massive. Against a templar, curing insanity is not hard with just pennyroyal. The issue is a bug we were told was fixed, seems to have come back and before you could cure your insanity down further you got illuminated at a point you shouldn't have been.

Edit:: oh, and I have logs of sparring sadie (from her PoV) where she used focus mind under badluck plenty of times to cure insanity without a single proc of badluck, let alone a balance stack, so needing to risk it now and then is sometimes something you need to do. Granted the jinx ate her alive on everything else, but hey that's jinx not badluck!
Veyrzhul2010-08-27 21:51:16
True about mantakaya not causing more insanity, but I would have the choice between being paralysed or risking more balance loss while STAYING paralysed.

I don't see why he would out-afflict me with insanity to moderate and why I should then suddenly outcure him on the way to massive insanity.


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The popular forum advice is 'stop focus minding while badlucked' or 'kill them before they kill you'.


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Which for those who do stop focus minding is good advice. I can always tell when someone is focus mind spamming or has actually fixed their curing. The former is an easy kill, the latter is often a tough fight. More so with onehanders/monks since the adjustment to lower the proc rate on one handers/monks.


The first is a post of Shuyin from some time ago, the second is your reply to it.
That you have a log or ten where Sadie happens to get lucky and get through some focus minds doesn't really prove anything but that randomness involves chance.
Gregori2010-08-27 21:54:00
QUOTE (Veyrzhul @ Aug 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That you have a log or ten where Sadie happens to get lucky and get through some focus minds doesn't really prove anything but that randomness involves chance.


That you have a log where you happen to get unlucky and not get through kata forms doesn't really prove anything but that randomness involves chance.
Veyrzhul2010-08-27 22:04:36
My point in this case is that focus mind is still a bad idea. Obviously the above log would have been less post-worthy for me had I noticed the issue with Illumination and insanity status.
If you, quite opposite to your prior statement in the other thread, tell me now that focusing mind is the way to go under badluck, I'm very willing to give that a try and see how it goes. And share the results.
Gregori2010-08-27 22:09:14
What I said was, sometimes you have to risk it. Spamming focus mind is -never- a good idea under badluck. Taking a risk to drop insanity though when you need to can be useful. Try to keep up with what is said and not what you think is said.
Xavius2010-08-27 22:20:48
To clarify, the correct practice is to stop your system from focusing mind, but not being afraid to punch in your focus mind alias.
Veyrzhul2010-08-27 22:23:56
Of course you have to risk it if you want to simply delay Illumination. Even if it puts you off balance, you're still escaping massive insanity a tad longer with the times it does work. Is an emergency defensive mechanism helpful which potentially has you completely stuck? I think not.

How about focus body? Is that affected by badluck?
Prav2010-08-27 23:56:40
From: http://forums.lusternia.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=734474

QUOTE (Gregori @ Apr 29 2010, 04:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's the focusing that is the issue, because people use focus mind to cure insanity. So the way it works now is each fail stacks another balance loss, just in testing I balance locked myself for almost a minute and a half spamming focus mind. I completely agree that stacking balance loss is an issue, especially if it can be permalocked for all intent and purpose.

Gregori, will you be submitting an envoy report to fix the stacking balance loss aspect of BadLuck, in addition to the current request to add a power cost, if there is a suitable malus effect added (as in, failed focuses still taking mana)?
Gregori2010-08-28 00:20:07
Oh isn't that sweet. You found an initial statement I made to quote, but failed to point out I also retracted that later on in the discussion. Go you! Go selective quoting!

QUOTE (Gregori @ May 2 2010, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Edit:: After some thought on the matter, I am even leaning towards not putting in a fix for focus mind causing perpetual balance loss. People know what the risk of focusing mind might end up being and if they choose to use it in badluck then they should suffer that risk. It's a simple enough risk (2 triggers 1 variable) to code around and it is not the first skill to hinder curing methods. It is certainly far less debilitating than curing in choke. (nerf choke)